(originally posted in at the other site) ADAC is the organization that responds to essentially every automotive Panne (breakdown) in. Reliability Statistics Bonanza: Thirty Years Of Pannenstatistik. By Paul . Here is what Michael Karesh wrote in about ADAC’s methods. Automotive News Europe 14 July Becker K, Stickel Th () Einfluss von Accessed on 20 November ADAC () Die ADAC Pannenstatistik.

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I saw the report of that e-mail too.

Next time you visit Austria, take a look around — you will very quickly notice who is driving the few new Toyotas these days well, certainly in Vienna and Lower Austria — it is possible that there is a slightly different spread in Tirol — an active local dealer can do a lot.

Yes, I noticed all those Alfas and Fiats.

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Dangle just the US operations, and the answer might well be different. Editing to add, for whatever it is worth I actually had at my disposal for a while a Mitsubishi Cordia Turbo not my car and… the turbo seals went. GM had discontinued most LeMans parts not long after the car was discontinued and the neighborhood shop we always used had called their regular pannenstatistuk to no avail.

So do I believe Audi to be more reliable than Toyota ,no because Audi is cutting edge and shall have many more teething problems. Toledo and Jefferson North are two main plants, but apart from them there are many more important plants.


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I almost left off the most recent decade because there are some questions about whether the numbers are becoming increasingly irrelevant and less reliable due to a number of circumstances, one of them being the growth of emergency roadside services by manufacturers, although quite a number of those are contracted to ADAC. A lady at work cannot wait for her i lease to end so she can get rid of her pannenstatistok gremlins. Click here to view our privacy policy. And there you have your oil leaking alloy engine after just 50, km or so.

If only it had been more like a Toyota Century or Lincoln Town Car, sticking to long-proven, appropriate levels of tech for a big, often chauffeur-driven model while something more sporting served as the tech flagship….

Can you provide evidence for this? Despite the trim falling off after k. How many unmentioned variables exist that could skew results?

And to anticipate your concerns, ADAC notes mileage on each vehicle of every call in order to adjust the raw data. Posted May 26, at 3: Posted May 27, at That being said, some pannsnstatistik the European brands may have improved a lot over the last 10 years. You must be logged in to post a comment.

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Bailed out in The lousy ownership experience will eventually catch up with them, just as it did in the 70s. At the other end: At least as used in the US. But in my opinion, roadside breakdowns are so infrequent now, that the statistical differences are inconclusive. Turbos are having issues everywhere. But it is commonly held, by the manufacturers too, that the stats from the late 70s, 80s and 90s is about as good as anything of its kind.


Certainly the Fiat diesels are class leaders as far as reliability is concerned how about an Alfa 5 cyl diesel which managed to make to toKmmiles before the engine died.

I for one am shocked!

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Factors unrelated to how a car is designed and built run rampant throughout your numbers and you should know that. I can see why Audi tops the list. Lets look at Le Mans and how many attempts results 0. What is though not reflected in the survey is that VW in Europe has not been as panbenstatistik as it should be and there are quite a few pannenstatsitik stories about — I think VW is going through a period similar to the one M-B had in the early 90s, and they need to snap out of it An interesting observation as my impression here in the Pannenstatistok is just the opposite: Toyotas are mainly bought by old er people who treat their car as if it was made of gold and never put the pedal to the metal.